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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Wed May 29, 2013 7:31 pm

So Yukari, Akihiko, Koromaru/Aigis then.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu May 30, 2013 12:04 am

Yep. I'd go Koro if you're not really gonna bother with Odin, but if you are, then it's down to personal preference.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 12:51 am

I likely will. Two team buffers and a good Physical tank and nuke sound good. Though since I'm not covering much... Hmmm... I may stick with Koromaru, but those BUFFS, man.

Side note: Quad elemental Lilim? Yes please. I'll have that with a side of aced first exams present.
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Post  Admin (HalcyonWandering) on Thu May 30, 2013 1:30 am

Its Thor that gives you the elec proofing thunder gloves.
Odin's item does the same thing as arms master I think.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 1:40 am

I wonder if the money runs I do in 3 are as easy to pull of in 4... to some extent, maybe?
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu May 30, 2013 1:46 am

They probably won't be, since they take away from your S-Link time in 4.

Also, DAMMIT! I knew it was one of the two, but I could've sworn it was Odin...Okay, well, Chariot is also not that hard to master, and Thor is still good at Strike and comes packed with Ziodyne.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 1:53 am

Not when it's raining. Though you do put up a good point.

I would have gotten both anyway, don't beat yourself up man.
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Post  Admin (HalcyonWandering) on Thu May 30, 2013 2:11 am

If you register Thor in the compendium just before the level up where he obtains the gloves (I think its around 38) you can farm him for the heart item.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 3:30 am

Wow... 38? I didn't know he was such a low level... Hot damn. This works out a little better than I had expected.
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Post  Admin (HalcyonWandering) on Thu May 30, 2013 10:14 am

Its actually 58 or somewhere near there. Damn that was a bad guess...

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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu May 30, 2013 2:40 pm

I think it's like 60. Thor is the ultimate Persona of Chariot, why would he come at level 38?

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 6:10 pm

Niiiiiiiiiiice.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu May 30, 2013 6:51 pm

It's probably 59 or 60. For whatever reason, no place I check seems to have that exact info, they just say it's Thor's Heart Item, but not when he gets it. I know max S-links get you 5 levels and Thor starts at 53, so he reaches 58 on Fusion. From there, I believe 59 would be his final Skill and 60 would be the Lightning Gloves. I can't confirm this, but that SEEMS to be how it works.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 6:59 pm

If a Social Link brings a Persona to a level that has all skills learned, it's the NEXT level. In the example you mentioned, that would be 59. Though to be fairly honest maybe 60? Idk... But thank you.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu May 30, 2013 7:15 pm

Like I said, though, I'm pretty sure he learns a skill at 59. Although...

After checking: 59 is Elec Amp, 60 is Heavy Master/Weapons Master, so you'd get Lightning Gloves at 61.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu May 30, 2013 7:32 pm

I actually found a list of all the items you can get from the Heart items... hold on...

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...here.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/937269-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/answers?qid=299173

Though looking at this list, I can actually get those a LOT sooner if I use one of the Take personae.

Update:

So many good Personae I have now...

Ghoul (stat-enhanced via Lilim)
Mudo
Assault Dive
Agilao
Garu
Bufu
Ice Boost
Zio

Naga
Double Fangs
Rakukaja
Bewilder
Bash
Tarukaja
Rakunda
Mazio
Kill Rush

Ares (Also stat boosted)
Zan-ei
Rakunda
Power Slash
Dodge Slash
Auto-Tarukaja (ftw)
Eerie Sound
Counter
Rebellion

Jack Frost
Bufu
Re Patra
Dia
Rakunda
Sonic PUnch
Ice Boost
Agilao (you read that right)
Mabufu

Oberon
Zio
Media
Dia
Rakunda
Tarukaja
Survive Dark
Mazio
Zan-ei

Lilim! (Stat-boosted)
Marin fucking Karin
Agi
Zio
Garu
Bufu
Rakukaja
Mudo
Mazio

And for Minato's defenses, I have:

Lilim: Strong against Elec/Dark
Oberon: Strong against Light/Dark, Null Elec
Jack Frost: Null Ice
Ares: Strong against Slash/Fire
Strong against Elec/Dark again with Naga
Ghoul: Strong against Strike, Null Wind and Dark.

I'm feeling really good about this team.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Fri May 31, 2013 1:47 am

Wow, you're...much earlier in the game than I thought you were. And IMO, Lilim seems to be your best Persona. It can knock down anything that has weaknesses to elements and is strong against an element that is fairly common for where you are in the game, even if Oberon is also strong against Light and nulls Elec entirely...

Also, Jack Frost with Agilao? Didn't know that could happen...huh.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Fri May 31, 2013 2:02 am

Ghoul is, actually. He's got a higher Magic stat, courtesy of Lil and being higher level. Not to mention Agilao.

Yeah, when I fused Frost (or leveled him up, I forget) he had a skill change for Pulinpa. I took it, since I don't use statuses, and voila!

Yeah, I'm only in June now. I restarted, remember? XD Wait... did I mention that? ._. oops.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Fri May 31, 2013 2:59 am

I dunno, I'm liking Rakukaja just a bit more than Assault Dive. I suppose it's situational, though, depending on what your enemy has up its sleeve.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Fri May 31, 2013 3:05 am

Eh. I told Intrepid Knight (the Garudyne and Charm-weak boss) to suck it just now. THANK YOU FOR NOT USING SP ON MARIN KARIN. THANK YOU.

Also, Magic Mirrors are a bad idea for this fight XD
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THEY TOLD ME IT COULDN'T BE DONE. IGOR HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE PUTTING THOSE SPELLS ON HIM. BUT I DID IT. I'VE SUCCEEDED IN MAKING MY QUAD ELEMENTAL PALE RIDER. NOTHING CAN STOP ME NOW. NOGHTING! NOT EVEN MISSPELLINGS! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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Post  lethalityComplex on Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:05 am

You mean penta-elemental. Darkness, Ice, Wind, Electricity, Fire.
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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:45 pm

Quad mid-tier. Shhhh. Don't ruin my fun, man.
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Post  Haar_Dragon on Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:44 pm

Technically, if we're counting more than those four, it's Hex-elemental. It's also got Zan-ei.

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Post  Zeldaman2.0 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:12 pm

I wish it was Getsu-ei so I could use it against the Full Moon Bosses. Oh well. Point is, that fusion took me two hours to get all four of those spells on him. He gets Garula automatically, and I had to fuse Principality after getting Bufula on it from High Pixie, a Lamia, and Oberon.
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